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I chose the singular because I created this with just one puzzle. ​ [[User:Demer|Demer]] ([[User talk:Demer|talk]]) 20:41, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 
I chose the singular because I created this with just one puzzle. ​ [[User:Demer|Demer]] ([[User talk:Demer|talk]]) 20:41, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
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I figure these puzzles should be sorted by difficulty.
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However, I'm not doing that now, because
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I have not yet solved #5, and me editing the Solutions page
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would probably result in me seeing the solution from there.
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and
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One would need to decide which of #3,#4 should come before the other of those two.
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. ​ [[User:Demer|Demer]] ([[User talk:Demer|talk]]) 20:54, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
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I found puzzle 1 quite easy (following the line of reasoning in the solutions) but was actually stumped by puzzle 4 for a while. I would say that for me, 3 < 1 < 4 < 2 < 5 in difficulty. (I created puzzle 5 with KataHex and don't have a good way to motivate the solution yet.) I suspect some others will find puzzle 4 easier than 1, so 3 < 4 < 1 < 2 < 5? [[User:Hexanna|Hexanna]] ([[User talk:Hexanna|talk]]) 21:08, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
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Yes; that seems good. ​ [[User:Demer|Demer]] ([[User talk:Demer|talk]]) 21:11, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
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(I gave up, and read the solution rather than solving #5.) ​ [[User:Demer|Demer]] ([[User talk:Demer|talk]]) 07:43, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 07:43, 8 July 2023

Here's another relatively easy one: Red to play the unique losing move.

abcd1234

I like this slightly less than puzzle 3 because there's an imbalance between red and blue stones; on the other hand, it's slightly more elegant than puzzle 3 because it uses fewer stones overall. The answer is basically the same as puzzle 3, so I think one should not have both. Selinger (talk) 01:49, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Also, for the record, here is the 7x7 puzzle that Hexanna added and then removed. It is pretty hard, but I still enjoyed thinking about it. I would be in favor of re-adding it to the page, perhaps just indicating that it is a harder puzzle.

abcdefg1234567

Selinger (talk) 01:49, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Added it back. Hexanna (talk) 02:53, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

For some reason, the diagrams appear in black/white after moving the talk page. Writing a test comment to see if it's fixed. Hexanna (talk) 04:58, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

On the subject of renaming the page: in general, the Wiki style is to use singular titles, so we have joseki and not josekis. That is presumably why Eric chose the singular. But I agree that puzzles and worst move puzzles are an exception, since the page is about a list of puzzles, not about the concept of a puzzle. Selinger (talk) 15:31, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

I chose the singular because I created this with just one puzzle. ​ Demer (talk) 20:41, 2 July 2023 (UTC)


I figure these puzzles should be sorted by difficulty. However, I'm not doing that now, because

I have not yet solved #5, and me editing the Solutions page would probably result in me seeing the solution from there.

and

One would need to decide which of #3,#4 should come before the other of those two.

. ​ Demer (talk) 20:54, 2 July 2023 (UTC)


I found puzzle 1 quite easy (following the line of reasoning in the solutions) but was actually stumped by puzzle 4 for a while. I would say that for me, 3 < 1 < 4 < 2 < 5 in difficulty. (I created puzzle 5 with KataHex and don't have a good way to motivate the solution yet.) I suspect some others will find puzzle 4 easier than 1, so 3 < 4 < 1 < 2 < 5? Hexanna (talk) 21:08, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Yes; that seems good. ​ Demer (talk) 21:11, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

(I gave up, and read the solution rather than solving #5.) ​ Demer (talk) 07:43, 8 July 2023 (UTC)