Difference between revisions of "Talk:Solutions to puzzles"

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* For posterity, this puzzle has been removed. The puzzles have been re-numbered so the current "puzzle 5" is fine. [[User:Hexanna|Hexanna]] ([[User talk:Hexanna|talk]]) 15:45, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 
* For posterity, this puzzle has been removed. The puzzles have been re-numbered so the current "puzzle 5" is fine. [[User:Hexanna|Hexanna]] ([[User talk:Hexanna|talk]]) 15:45, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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* And in case posterity would like to see what the removed puzzle was, it is still [https://www.hexwiki.net/index.php?title=Puzzles&oldid=8142#Puzzle_5 in the history]. [[User:Selinger|Selinger]] ([[User talk:Selinger|talk]]) 16:20, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
  
 
Yes, I wondered about that too. Arek's a strong player, but with 23 moves in the proposed solution, and nothing approaching a proof that the solution works, it doesn't really qualify as a puzzle. It's more like "here is a game that I won". [[User:Selinger|Selinger]] ([[User talk:Selinger|talk]]) 02:16, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 
Yes, I wondered about that too. Arek's a strong player, but with 23 moves in the proposed solution, and nothing approaching a proof that the solution works, it doesn't really qualify as a puzzle. It's more like "here is a game that I won". [[User:Selinger|Selinger]] ([[User talk:Selinger|talk]]) 02:16, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
  
 
Also, the solution is definitely wrong; the Mohex dfpn solver can prove that 22. i6 is winning for Red. [[User:Selinger|Selinger]] ([[User talk:Selinger|talk]]) 03:17, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 
Also, the solution is definitely wrong; the Mohex dfpn solver can prove that 22. i6 is winning for Red. [[User:Selinger|Selinger]] ([[User talk:Selinger|talk]]) 03:17, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Revision as of 16:20, 7 May 2023

I propose the removal of puzzle 5 unless someone can prove the solution is good (because the bot disagrees strongly). At the start, KataHex thinks Blue has only a 35% win rate, with either 1. b8 or b10. Move 8 is a mistake; Red f9 instead has a 98.6% win rate. Move 22 at j2 is only 3% for Red; KataHex suggests i6 which is 99% for Red. Hexanna (talk) 01:01, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

  • For posterity, this puzzle has been removed. The puzzles have been re-numbered so the current "puzzle 5" is fine. Hexanna (talk) 15:45, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
  • And in case posterity would like to see what the removed puzzle was, it is still in the history. Selinger (talk) 16:20, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I wondered about that too. Arek's a strong player, but with 23 moves in the proposed solution, and nothing approaching a proof that the solution works, it doesn't really qualify as a puzzle. It's more like "here is a game that I won". Selinger (talk) 02:16, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Also, the solution is definitely wrong; the Mohex dfpn solver can prove that 22. i6 is winning for Red. Selinger (talk) 03:17, 7 May 2023 (UTC)