Talk:Worst move puzzles - Revision history

Demer at 07:43, 8 July 2023

2023-07-08T07:43:28Z

Demer: agreed with suggested order

2023-07-02T21:11:43Z

agreed with suggested order

Hexanna: response

2023-07-02T21:08:11Z

response

Demer: mentioned sorting

2023-07-02T20:54:32Z

mentioned sorting

Demer: responded

2023-07-02T20:41:45Z

responded

Selinger: talk

2023-07-02T15:31:22Z

talk

Hexanna at 04:58, 2 July 2023

2023-07-02T04:58:06Z

Hexanna: Hexanna moved page Talk:Worst Move Puzzle to Talk:Worst move puzzles: naming capitalization/plural for consistency

2023-07-02T04:46:56Z

Hexanna moved page Talk:Worst Move Puzzle to Talk:Worst move puzzles: naming capitalization/plural for consistency

Hexanna at 02:53, 2 July 2023

2023-07-02T02:53:44Z

Selinger: Created page with "Here's another relatively easy one: Red to play the unique losing move. I like this slightly less than puzzle 3 because t..."

2023-07-02T01:49:17Z

Created page with "Here's another relatively easy one: Red to play the unique losing move. <hexboard size="4x4" contents="R a1 a3 B d1" /> I like this slightly less than puzzle 3 because t..."

New page

Here's another relatively easy one: Red to play the unique losing move.

<hexboard size="4x4"
contents="R a1 a3 B d1"
/>

I like this slightly less than puzzle 3 because there's an imbalance between red and blue stones; on the other hand, it's slightly more elegant than puzzle 3 because it uses fewer stones overall. The answer is basically the same as puzzle 3, so I think one should not have both.
[[User:Selinger|Selinger]] ([[User talk:Selinger|talk]]) 01:49, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Also, for the record, here is the 7x7 puzzle that Hexanna added and then removed. It is pretty hard, but I still enjoyed thinking about it. I would be in favor of re-adding it to the page, perhaps just indicating that it is a harder puzzle.

<hexboard size="7x7"
contents="R a6 e3 B b6 g4"
/>

[[User:Selinger|Selinger]] ([[User talk:Selinger|talk]]) 01:49, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

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	Yes; that seems good. [[User:Demer\|Demer]] ([[User talk:Demer\|talk]]) 21:11, 2 July 2023 (UTC)		Yes; that seems good. [[User:Demer\|Demer]] ([[User talk:Demer\|talk]]) 21:11, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
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		+	(I gave up, and read the solution rather than solving #5.) [[User:Demer\|Demer]] ([[User talk:Demer\|talk]]) 07:43, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

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	I found puzzle 1 quite easy (following the line of reasoning in the solutions) but was actually stumped by puzzle 4 for a while. I would say that for me, 3 < 1 < 4 < 2 < 5 in difficulty. (I created puzzle 5 with KataHex and don't have a good way to motivate the solution yet.) I suspect some others will find puzzle 4 easier than 1, so 3 < 4 < 1 < 2 < 5? [[User:Hexanna\|Hexanna]] ([[User talk:Hexanna\|talk]]) 21:08, 2 July 2023 (UTC)		I found puzzle 1 quite easy (following the line of reasoning in the solutions) but was actually stumped by puzzle 4 for a while. I would say that for me, 3 < 1 < 4 < 2 < 5 in difficulty. (I created puzzle 5 with KataHex and don't have a good way to motivate the solution yet.) I suspect some others will find puzzle 4 easier than 1, so 3 < 4 < 1 < 2 < 5? [[User:Hexanna\|Hexanna]] ([[User talk:Hexanna\|talk]]) 21:08, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
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		+	Yes; that seems good. [[User:Demer\|Demer]] ([[User talk:Demer\|talk]]) 21:11, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

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		+	I found puzzle 1 quite easy (following the line of reasoning in the solutions) but was actually stumped by puzzle 4 for a while. I would say that for me, 3 < 1 < 4 < 2 < 5 in difficulty. (I created puzzle 5 with KataHex and don't have a good way to motivate the solution yet.) I suspect some others will find puzzle 4 easier than 1, so 3 < 4 < 1 < 2 < 5? [[User:Hexanna\|Hexanna]] ([[User talk:Hexanna\|talk]]) 21:08, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

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	I chose the singular because I created this with just one puzzle. [[User:Demer\|Demer]] ([[User talk:Demer\|talk]]) 20:41, 2 July 2023 (UTC)		I chose the singular because I created this with just one puzzle. [[User:Demer\|Demer]] ([[User talk:Demer\|talk]]) 20:41, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
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		+	I figure these puzzles should be sorted by difficulty.
		+	However, I'm not doing that now, because
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		+	I have not yet solved #5, and me editing the Solutions page
		+	would probably result in me seeing the solution from there.
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		+	One would need to decide which of #3,#4 should come before the other of those two.
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		+	. [[User:Demer\|Demer]] ([[User talk:Demer\|talk]]) 20:54, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

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	On the subject of renaming the page: in general, the Wiki style is to use [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(plurals) singular titles], so we have [[joseki]] and not [[josekis]]. That is presumably why Eric chose the singular. But I agree that [[puzzles]] and [[worst move puzzles]] are an exception, since the page is about a list of puzzles, not about the concept of a puzzle. [[User:Selinger\|Selinger]] ([[User talk:Selinger\|talk]]) 15:31, 2 July 2023 (UTC)		On the subject of renaming the page: in general, the Wiki style is to use [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(plurals) singular titles], so we have [[joseki]] and not [[josekis]]. That is presumably why Eric chose the singular. But I agree that [[puzzles]] and [[worst move puzzles]] are an exception, since the page is about a list of puzzles, not about the concept of a puzzle. [[User:Selinger\|Selinger]] ([[User talk:Selinger\|talk]]) 15:31, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
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		+	I chose the singular because I created this with just one puzzle. [[User:Demer\|Demer]] ([[User talk:Demer\|talk]]) 20:41, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

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	For some reason, the diagrams appear in black/white after moving the talk page. Writing a test comment to see if it's fixed. [[User:Hexanna\|Hexanna]] ([[User talk:Hexanna\|talk]]) 04:58, 2 July 2023 (UTC)		For some reason, the diagrams appear in black/white after moving the talk page. Writing a test comment to see if it's fixed. [[User:Hexanna\|Hexanna]] ([[User talk:Hexanna\|talk]]) 04:58, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
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		+	On the subject of renaming the page: in general, the Wiki style is to use [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(plurals) singular titles], so we have [[joseki]] and not [[josekis]]. That is presumably why Eric chose the singular. But I agree that [[puzzles]] and [[worst move puzzles]] are an exception, since the page is about a list of puzzles, not about the concept of a puzzle. [[User:Selinger\|Selinger]] ([[User talk:Selinger\|talk]]) 15:31, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

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	Added it back. [[User:Hexanna\|Hexanna]] ([[User talk:Hexanna\|talk]]) 02:53, 2 July 2023 (UTC)		Added it back. [[User:Hexanna\|Hexanna]] ([[User talk:Hexanna\|talk]]) 02:53, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
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		+	For some reason, the diagrams appear in black/white after moving the talk page. Writing a test comment to see if it's fixed. [[User:Hexanna\|Hexanna]] ([[User talk:Hexanna\|talk]]) 04:58, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

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	[[User:Selinger\|Selinger]] ([[User talk:Selinger\|talk]]) 01:49, 2 July 2023 (UTC)		[[User:Selinger\|Selinger]] ([[User talk:Selinger\|talk]]) 01:49, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
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		+	Added it back. [[User:Hexanna\|Hexanna]] ([[User talk:Hexanna\|talk]]) 02:53, 2 July 2023 (UTC)