Talk:Ladder puzzle 1/Solution - Revision history

Zeycus: Suggestion to modify the problem.

2009-02-16T21:16:52Z

Suggestion to modify the problem.

2009-02-16T14:01:55Z

Answered

2009-02-15T12:16:04Z

typo

2009-02-15T12:14:22Z

Possible error in analysis found: f6 would be also good, after all.

2007-12-02T18:37:07Z

replied

2007-12-02T15:25:09Z

i don't get the answer :)

2007-11-29T22:29:41Z

answered

2007-11-29T16:23:29Z

question

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what about f6 directly as an outpost? If it doesn't work, i'd like to know why... --[[User:Gregorio|Gregorio]] 17:23, 29 November 2007 (CET)

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	:: I think 1.f6 2.e7 is not enough for Blue to win. What can be answered to 3.g6? Double threaten in c7 and f4. --[[User:Zeycus\|Zeycus]] 11:13, 15 February 2009 (CET)		:: I think 1.f6 2.e7 is not enough for Blue to win. What can be answered to 3.g6? Double threaten in c7 and f4. --[[User:Zeycus\|Zeycus]] 11:13, 15 February 2009 (CET)
	::: You're right. I've changed the title to "Alternative Solution", because I don't see anything that Blue could do. --[[User:Roland Illig\|Roland Illig]] 15:01, 16 February 2009 (CET)		::: You're right. I've changed the title to "Alternative Solution", because I don't see anything that Blue could do. --[[User:Roland Illig\|Roland Illig]] 15:01, 16 February 2009 (CET)
		+	:::: Anyway I agree that the solution 1.e5, with the double ladder, is more valuable than 1.f6. Maybe the problem should be modified, adding a blue stone in f4. Like that, I don't think f6 would work. --[[User:Zeycus\|Zeycus]] 21:13, 16 February 2009 (CET)

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	::: Next try: Blue answers at e7. If you have some variants, just add them in the article. --[[User:Roland Illig\|Roland Illig]] 19:37, 2 December 2007 (CET)		::: Next try: Blue answers at e7. If you have some variants, just add them in the article. --[[User:Roland Illig\|Roland Illig]] 19:37, 2 December 2007 (CET)
	:: I think 1.f6 2.e7 is not enough for Blue to win. What can be answered to 3.g6? Double threaten in c7 and f4. --[[User:Zeycus\|Zeycus]] 11:13, 15 February 2009 (CET)		:: I think 1.f6 2.e7 is not enough for Blue to win. What can be answered to 3.g6? Double threaten in c7 and f4. --[[User:Zeycus\|Zeycus]] 11:13, 15 February 2009 (CET)
		+	::: You're right. I've changed the title to "Alternative Solution", because I don't see anything that Blue could do. --[[User:Roland Illig\|Roland Illig]] 15:01, 16 February 2009 (CET)

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 :: I still don't get it ;) If Blue plays 2 in e6, as in your "Wrong solution", Red can start the ladder at c7 directly, long before Blue 8 :) My point is: h4 is not needed... --[[User:Gregorio|Gregorio]] 16:25, 2 December 2007 (CET)
 ::: Next try: Blue answers at e7. If you have some variants, just add them in the article. --[[User:Roland Illig|Roland Illig]] 19:37, 2 December 2007 (CET)
-:: I think 1.f6 2.e5 is not enough for Blue to win. What can be answered to 3.g6? Double threaten in c7 and f4. --[[User:Zeycus|Zeycus]] 11:13, 15 February 2009 (CET)
+:: I think 1.f6 2.e7 is not enough for Blue to win. What can be answered to 3.g6? Double threaten in c7 and f4. --[[User:Zeycus|Zeycus]] 11:13, 15 February 2009 (CET)

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	:: I still don't get it ;) If Blue plays 2 in e6, as in your "Wrong solution", Red can start the ladder at c7 directly, long before Blue 8 :) My point is: h4 is not needed... --[[User:Gregorio\|Gregorio]] 16:25, 2 December 2007 (CET)		:: I still don't get it ;) If Blue plays 2 in e6, as in your "Wrong solution", Red can start the ladder at c7 directly, long before Blue 8 :) My point is: h4 is not needed... --[[User:Gregorio\|Gregorio]] 16:25, 2 December 2007 (CET)
	::: Next try: Blue answers at e7. If you have some variants, just add them in the article. --[[User:Roland Illig\|Roland Illig]] 19:37, 2 December 2007 (CET)		::: Next try: Blue answers at e7. If you have some variants, just add them in the article. --[[User:Roland Illig\|Roland Illig]] 19:37, 2 December 2007 (CET)
		+	:: I think 1.f6 2.e5 is not enough for Blue to win. What can be answered to 3.g6? Double threaten in c7 and f4. --[[User:Zeycus\|Zeycus]] 11:13, 15 February 2009 (CET)

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	: I've answered it in the article, since a good solution should also explain why the failing moves don't work. --[[User:Roland Illig\|Roland Illig]] 23:29, 29 November 2007 (CET)		: I've answered it in the article, since a good solution should also explain why the failing moves don't work. --[[User:Roland Illig\|Roland Illig]] 23:29, 29 November 2007 (CET)
	:: I still don't get it ;) If Blue plays 2 in e6, as in your "Wrong solution", Red can start the ladder at c7 directly, long before Blue 8 :) My point is: h4 is not needed... --[[User:Gregorio\|Gregorio]] 16:25, 2 December 2007 (CET)		:: I still don't get it ;) If Blue plays 2 in e6, as in your "Wrong solution", Red can start the ladder at c7 directly, long before Blue 8 :) My point is: h4 is not needed... --[[User:Gregorio\|Gregorio]] 16:25, 2 December 2007 (CET)
		+	::: Next try: Blue answers at e7. If you have some variants, just add them in the article. --[[User:Roland Illig\|Roland Illig]] 19:37, 2 December 2007 (CET)

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	what about f6 directly as an outpost? If it doesn't work, i'd like to know why... --[[User:Gregorio\|Gregorio]] 17:23, 29 November 2007 (CET)		what about f6 directly as an outpost? If it doesn't work, i'd like to know why... --[[User:Gregorio\|Gregorio]] 17:23, 29 November 2007 (CET)
	: I've answered it in the article, since a good solution should also explain why the failing moves don't work. --[[User:Roland Illig\|Roland Illig]] 23:29, 29 November 2007 (CET)		: I've answered it in the article, since a good solution should also explain why the failing moves don't work. --[[User:Roland Illig\|Roland Illig]] 23:29, 29 November 2007 (CET)
		+	:: I still don't get it ;) If Blue plays 2 in e6, as in your "Wrong solution", Red can start the ladder at c7 directly, long before Blue 8 :) My point is: h4 is not needed... --[[User:Gregorio\|Gregorio]] 16:25, 2 December 2007 (CET)

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	what about f6 directly as an outpost? If it doesn't work, i'd like to know why... --[[User:Gregorio\|Gregorio]] 17:23, 29 November 2007 (CET)		what about f6 directly as an outpost? If it doesn't work, i'd like to know why... --[[User:Gregorio\|Gregorio]] 17:23, 29 November 2007 (CET)
		+	: I've answered it in the article, since a good solution should also explain why the failing moves don't work. --[[User:Roland Illig\|Roland Illig]] 23:29, 29 November 2007 (CET)