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Eobllor at 16:29, 14 November 2012

2012-11-14T16:29:04Z

Eobllor: Template Vb as a ladder escape for a fourth-row ladder: a question

2012-11-14T16:28:43Z

Template Vb as a ladder escape for a fourth-row ladder: a question

Roland Illig: the free cells are necessary

2007-09-27T21:04:26Z

the free cells are necessary

Roland Illig at 20:38, 27 September 2007

2007-09-27T20:38:13Z

Roland Illig (Admin): Reverted edits by ArxIfs (Talk); changed back to last version by Roland Illig

2007-09-20T19:57:38Z

Reverted edits by ArxIfs (Talk); changed back to last version by Roland Illig

Roland Illig: moved discussion from the article to here

2007-09-17T04:22:14Z

moved discussion from the article to here

New page

= Template Va =

: Does the hex at a1 really have to be empty? --[[User:Roland Illig|Roland Illig]] 14:02, 15 Jun 2007 (CEST)
::Not sure I understand your question, Roland. It says in the next paragraph that hexes marked '*' are not relevant to the template, i.e. it doesn't matter whether a1 is empty or not. I think I will move this discussion shortly to the Talk page, so that it doesn't disturb the flow of the tutorial. — [[User:Turing|turing]] 13:53, 14 Jul 2007 (CEST)
::: Oops, I meant either J1 or A6, though I don't remember which one I meant. :( --[[User:Roland Illig|Roland Illig]] 23:52, 8 Sep 2007 (CEST)

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 *b6
 </hex>
-[[User:eobllor|eobllor]] 2012/11/14 17:15 CET
+[[User:eobllor|eobllor]] 2012/11/14 17:29 CET

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	* Bf6...		* Bf6...
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		+	= Template Vb as a fourth-row ladder escape from the right =
		+	I seems to me that for template Vb to be a valid ladder escape for a fourth-row ladder coming from the right, the vertical player has to be able to double-chain at j2 and i1 (in the diagram, it is the horizontal player's turn; he is going to play h4, which intrudes into the template). For instance, if the horizontal player has a piece at h2, the opponent cannot escape. Is that correct?
		+	<hex>
		+	R6 C10 Q1
		+	1:BBBBBBR___
		+	2:BBBBBRR___
		+	3:BBBB____RR
		+	4:BBB_____BB
		+	5:BB________
		+	6:B_________
		+	+i1
		+	+j2
		+	h4 h5 *h6
		+	g3 g4 g5 g6
		+	f3 f4 f5 f6
		+	e3 e4 e5 e6
		+	d4 d5 *d6
		+	c5 c6
		+	*b6
		+	</hex>
		+	[[User:eobllor\|eobllor]] 2012/11/14 17:15 CET

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 ::: Oops, I meant either J1 or A6, though I don't remember which one I meant. :( --[[User:Roland Illig|Roland Illig]] 23:52, 8 Sep 2007 (CEST)
-This is based on template Va, but there are more blue stones at a6, b5, c4.
+This is based on template Va, but there are three more blue stones at a6, b5, c4.
 <hex>
 R6 C10 Q1
 :BBBBBBRRBB
-:BBBBB_R_BB
+:BBBBB*R*BB
-:BBBB_____B
+:BBBB*__**B
-:BBB__+____
+:BBB**_****
-:BB________
+:BB**__****
-:B__+_+____
+:B**___****
 </hex>
+I've marked all uninteresting moves with stars. After one of these moves, Red can play at f4 and has [[Template IIIa]] to one of the sides. This leaves eight interesting moves:
-Is Red connected to the bottom? If not, why not?
+* Bf3 Rh3: Template IVa
---[[User:Roland Illig|Roland Illig]] 22:38, 27 September 2007 (CEST)
+* Bg3 Rf3 Be5 Wf4 Bf5 Rg4 Bg5: Red lost.

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	::Not sure I understand your question, Roland. It says in the next paragraph that hexes marked '*' are not relevant to the template, i.e. it doesn't matter whether a1 is empty or not. I think I will move this discussion shortly to the Talk page, so that it doesn't disturb the flow of the tutorial. — [[User:Turing\|turing]] 13:53, 14 Jul 2007 (CEST)		::Not sure I understand your question, Roland. It says in the next paragraph that hexes marked '*' are not relevant to the template, i.e. it doesn't matter whether a1 is empty or not. I think I will move this discussion shortly to the Talk page, so that it doesn't disturb the flow of the tutorial. — [[User:Turing\|turing]] 13:53, 14 Jul 2007 (CEST)
	::: Oops, I meant either J1 or A6, though I don't remember which one I meant. :( --[[User:Roland Illig\|Roland Illig]] 23:52, 8 Sep 2007 (CEST)		::: Oops, I meant either J1 or A6, though I don't remember which one I meant. :( --[[User:Roland Illig\|Roland Illig]] 23:52, 8 Sep 2007 (CEST)
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		+	This is based on template Va, but there are more blue stones at a6, b5, c4.
		+	<hex>
		+	R6 C10 Q1
		+	1:BBBBBBRRBB
		+	2:BBBBB_R_BB
		+	3:BBBB_____B
		+	4:BBB__+____
		+	5:BB________
		+	6:B__+_+____
		+	</hex>
		+
		+	Is Red connected to the bottom? If not, why not?
		+	--[[User:Roland Illig\|Roland Illig]] 22:38, 27 September 2007 (CEST)

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